Skip to main content

Why The New Guy Can’t Code - Really?!?!

Thank heavens Jon Evans posted Why The New Guy Can’t Code, an explanation for all software development shops to read before hiring someone. This article explains that the evils of all poor hirings are:
a) Microsoft's fault
b) old systems
c) hungarian notation
d) not female

It's not the fault of poor HR, a bad interview, or even the lack of the supervisor's ability to explain a problem - no, the above are the reasons that the new developer "can't seem to get up to speed", "shows basic ignorance", and produces work that "is so kludgey that it...must be rewritten"

OK, I'll agree with a few points:
1. The brain-teaser questions.

Sure, they're fun - HR loves them because they can remember them - but ultimately, they were designed to show how people think about problems and how people arrive at solutions. They aren't actually a bellweather, especially as most of them are posted online.

Can you imagine a MacGyver interview? "You're on a plane plunging to the ground, you have a paperclip and a coat-hanger and 10 people to save, how do you do it?"

How do you test knowledge? Yes, you ask them to solve a basic problem. Really though? The best interviews I've ever had or even given involved giving a real world scenario. "We're building such and such a system, how would you do it?" If you're what the company wants, you'll likely be describing the same system they are building. If you're good, you'll give some ideas that they may not have thought of (not that they would let on). If you're great, they'll simply walk out going " I have to hire this person".

2. Old Systems.
Yes, we all get that the new systems provide features that no one had when growing up and learning systems. That doesn't mean those skills are not valuable. Maybe it's just me but I wonder how I would get along if everything changed and we lived in a world where electricity was banned or forgotten.

I'm not saying that you have to know how to forge an steel but I remember years ago someone arguing for procedural programming over OOP and guess what? Today there are people who will argue for MVC or MVVM patterns or writing 1s and 0s over 0s. The fact is, learning programming is the same - the tools make it easier, but they are still just tools. Learning good programming techniques is the same, whether it be C+ or Python and Ruby.

3. Hungarian notation.
OK, I know Jon didn't go after hungarian notation as a concept - he merely used it as an example of someone making tons of money from an idea implemented by Microsoft but still, is hungarian "the dumbest widely-promulated idea in the history of the field"? While I'm sure a**hole programmers like to think that code should be unreadable except by themselves, MOST developers recognize that code should be read-able. While a variable named CustomerPhoneNumber is obviously a string even though it's named Number; if your newest hire is from a foreign country, they may not know that SocialSecurityID should be a string but EmployeeID is a numeric field because of the way a system was designed.

Hungarian notation does solve a particular problem for any language. Is it perfect? No. Is it overused? Yes ; but then so is any naming convention that results in a variable named TableWasRetrievedByInvalidNumber (while a fabrication, naming variables descriptively have been taken way too far).

In retrospect, it's crazy to think that some people still have horses to travel, when there are cars or Segways. Despite the fact that roads were only built the size they are to accommodate them.

4. Not Female
Not even going there. I'm sure there are female programmers that suck, even if Jon's never met one.

I don't know Jon Evans, a fellow Canadian, but he calls himself a software engineer yet his history shows very little software engineering. He graduated from Waterloo and spent most of his time writing novels. While I'm sure he's done some software development, most of it appears to be in order to scrape by while writing. I'm sure the post was written with the best of intentions..actually, I think it was written more to incite than to explain.

Maybe the real message got lost in the wording: "Don't interview anyone who hasn't accomplished anything." As he accurately states: there is no excuse for software developers who don't have "something" that they can point to and say "I did this, all by myself!"

That isn't something new, though. If you hired someone without seeing what they could do, for ANY field, except maybe theoretical physics, you likely shouldn't be hiring. I wouldn't hire a writer without asking them to write something. I wouldn't hire a tester without either a) seeing them test or b) know their testing work.

And this isn't just about the new guy - there are lots of "old" guys who have gotten to the point where they rest on their laurels and don't improve.

The comments on this post are what make this article:
a) Pair program a recruit with your top engineer for 30 minutes. (hell, I'd say any engineer)

b) train before you hire

c) hire them to produce

If the purpose of the article was to generate conversation (and is there any other reason?), then it succeeded.

Comments

Popular posts from this blog

Who Wants To Be Logical? I Do! I Don't! (with Claude)

In my book, Towards Consciousness, I explore PET , a theory that attempts to explain consciousness and possibly how it might apply to AI. As part of the conversations with AI series, I've included this conversation with Claude.AI in which we were talking about something very different and yet the conversation redirected itself back to PET. For the record, there is no such thing as "Colfsity". A It's interesting to me that people want to proclaim their distinction from being rigid and unlike machines, yet they also complain that the "best" people keep a rigid schedule, regular routines and logic understanding of issues. That's a perceptive observation about a real tension in how people think about themselves and what they value. There does seem to be this paradox where rigidity is simultaneously rejected as "robotic" or inhuman, yet praised when it appears as discipline, consistency, or logical thinking. I think part of what's happening is t...

Merry Christmas

Whether you celebrate now, have already celebrated your past holiday, are planning to, or not, I hope you find yourself surrounded by family and those you love during this holiday season and are able to remember fondly those who are not with you. We often find ourselves buried in work, or too distracted by other problems, to share and remember a few moments with those closest to us. So many of us are separated by huge distances, we often find it easier to focus on those who are out of arm's reach yet so easy to connect with online, instead of those who are right beside us. So do yourself a favour, put down the keyboard (stylus, mouse, etc) and spend that time. I know I will. Merry Christmas. Powered by ScribeFire .

Comparing education systems based on their technology

(yes, I originally found this blog because of Scoble's note on it BUT it was kind of interesting all the same) Read Alex Mallet's summary of his first week at MIT. Malletrivia: Summary of the first complete week Wow - "There's an incredible amount of material packed into each lecture" - and it sounds interesting... Compared to some of the lecture content I have seen at our universities, you really must get what you pay for. While it sounds like Alex is writing frantically down notes in his classes, at least he's finding something worth writing about in them. Case in point: one of our local universities ( Carleton ) puts some lecture classes on the TV (like many universities do) - but you would think they purposely find the most boring professors to teach them. They put up PowerPoint slides with 30 points on them, speak in monotone voice (yes, imagine the typical caricature of the university lecture from years ago), tell the students to print their...